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	<title>Comments on: Do We Need The Ten Commandments?</title>
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		<title>By: stillhaventfound.org &#187; Thoughts on New Creation Church - The 10 Commandments - Part 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillhaventfound.org &#187; Thoughts on New Creation Church - The 10 Commandments - Part 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and emotions overflow when discussing this topic. See for example the comments that follow this post by Pastor Kong Hee. I respect Pastor Kong Hee greatly (and I&#8217;ve said many times here I think [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and emotions overflow when discussing this topic. See for example the comments that follow this post by Pastor Kong Hee. I respect Pastor Kong Hee greatly (and I&#8217;ve said many times here I think [...]</p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/do-we-need-the-ten-commandments/#comment-5743</link>
		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having checked out Joseph Prince’s sermons on Youtube, I am convinced that he is not preaching lawlessness. 

Joseph Prince&#039;s views with regard to law and holiness is clearly elucidated in his sermon exerpts, two of which are:
- &quot;Supernatural Transformation &amp; Holiness&quot;, and 
- &quot;Will the Real Christianity Please Stand Up&quot;

I must say I could not find fault with what he is teaching. He is definitely not against holiness and not demeaning God’s law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having checked out Joseph Prince’s sermons on Youtube, I am convinced that he is not preaching lawlessness. </p>
<p>Joseph Prince&#8217;s views with regard to law and holiness is clearly elucidated in his sermon exerpts, two of which are:<br />
- &#8220;Supernatural Transformation &amp; Holiness&#8221;, and<br />
- &#8220;Will the Real Christianity Please Stand Up&#8221;</p>
<p>I must say I could not find fault with what he is teaching. He is definitely not against holiness and not demeaning God’s law.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/do-we-need-the-ten-commandments/#comment-5737</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Mount Sinai &amp; Mount Zion. 
2) Old testament &amp; New testament 
3) Jews save by following covenant &amp; World Save by accepting Jesus

Be it Mount Sinai, Mount Zion, Old Testament, New Testament, Jews, Covenant, The world. They all belongs to Jesus from beginning to the end. Everything belongs to God. 

Every event and materials in the Bible have a purpose, and each purpose is there to fulfill its call. At the right time, at the right place and at the right moment. 

Time belongs to God and the moment has come. 

No time or the need to be angry, bicker, point fingers at another person&#039;s work. Let your work be according to God&#039;s purpose and your final fruits will be sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Mount Sinai &amp; Mount Zion.<br />
2) Old testament &amp; New testament<br />
3) Jews save by following covenant &amp; World Save by accepting Jesus</p>
<p>Be it Mount Sinai, Mount Zion, Old Testament, New Testament, Jews, Covenant, The world. They all belongs to Jesus from beginning to the end. Everything belongs to God. </p>
<p>Every event and materials in the Bible have a purpose, and each purpose is there to fulfill its call. At the right time, at the right place and at the right moment. </p>
<p>Time belongs to God and the moment has come. </p>
<p>No time or the need to be angry, bicker, point fingers at another person&#8217;s work. Let your work be according to God&#8217;s purpose and your final fruits will be sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/do-we-need-the-ten-commandments/#comment-5634</link>
		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about the rest of you, but I do agree that if I were to put myself under the law, and try to keep God’s commandments in order to earn blessings from God, I will experience deadness. But when I trust not in my self efforts and human performance, but depend instead on God&#039;s goodness and the Spirit of grace, I will experience life, and see breakthroughs and miracles, and manifest the fruit of the Spirit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the rest of you, but I do agree that if I were to put myself under the law, and try to keep God’s commandments in order to earn blessings from God, I will experience deadness. But when I trust not in my self efforts and human performance, but depend instead on God&#8217;s goodness and the Spirit of grace, I will experience life, and see breakthroughs and miracles, and manifest the fruit of the Spirit.</p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/do-we-need-the-ten-commandments/#comment-5633</link>
		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor Kong Hee wrote: 
&#039;In a recent May 11, 2009 blog entry, a prominent megachurch pastor says, “When you come under the law by trying to keep God’s commandments in order to be blessed, it will lead to death. There will be deadness in your marriage, ministry, health, career.” 

The message is clear: the Ten Commandments are unnecessary, oppressive, and maybe even downright evil.&#039;

I found out from browsing through the comments to another post in this blogsite that the &quot;mega church pastor&quot; referred to by Pastor Kong Hee is actually Joseph Prince from New Creation Church.

By just reading what Pastor Kong Hee has written, I got the impression that Joseph Prince was an anti-law preacher and that was teaching antinomianism.

However, when I traced the quote to its source and read what was quoted in its context, I arrived at a very different conclusion. 

The quote, in its proper context, is presented as follows: 

&quot;My friend, when you come under the law by trying to keep God’s commandments on order to be blessed, it will lead to death. There will be deadness in your marriage, ministry, health, career… in your life. But when you depend on the Spirit of grace, it will lead to life. You will see breakthroughs and miracles (Galatians 3:5), and manifest the fruit of the Spirit.&quot;. 

It gives the reader a very different impression when compared to how it was quoted by Pastor Kong Hee,  don&#039;t you think?

In any case, the article in its entirety, taken from Joseph Prince&#039;s &quot;Destined to Reign Devational&quot;, is reproduced below. 

May 11

CONTINUE IN GOD&#039;S GRACE

2 Corinthians 3:6 “…for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.&quot;

To the Jews, the feast of Pentecost is a celebration of the giving of God’s law. It takes place 50 days after the Passover feast. When God gave the Israelites the Ten Commandments at Mount Sinai, it was 50 days after they had celebrated their first Passover and come out of slavery in Egypt.

But what happened after God gave them the law on the first Pentecost? Three thousand people died! (Exodus 32:28) Contrast this with another Pentecost in the New Testament. In the book of Acts, it says when Pentecost had fully come, God gave not the law but the Holy Spirit, and what happened? Three thousand people god saved (Acts 2:41), which goes to show that “the letter [the law] kills, but the Spirit gives life”!

The law, which was “written and engraved on stones”, ministered death. It killed 3,000 people. That is why the apostle Paul calls it “the ministry of death” and “the ministry of condemnation”. (2 Corinthians 3:7-9) On the other hand, the Spirit ministered life – 3,000 people got saved.

My friend, when you come under the law by trying to keep God’s commandments on order to be blessed, it will lead to death. There will be deadness in your marriage, ministry, health, career… in your life. But when you depend on the Spirit of grace, it will lead to life. You will see breakthroughs and miracles (Galatians 3:5), and manifest the fruit of the Spirit.

So if you want to be blessed, make sure that you are on the right mountain. You see, the law was given on Mount Sinai, but the Spirit on Mount Zion. That is why the Bible says that “you have not come to the mountain [Sinai] that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest… But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of angels”. (Hebrews 12:18,22) The Lord blesses you out of Zion (Psalm 128:5), and not Sinai!

Beloved, by grace you have been saved through faith. (Ephesians 2:8) Now, continue in the Spirit of grace. Remain on the right mountain and He will continue to supply miracles in your life!

Thought For The Day: When you depend on the Spirit of grace, you will see breakthroughs, miracles and life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Kong Hee wrote:<br />
&#8216;In a recent May 11, 2009 blog entry, a prominent megachurch pastor says, “When you come under the law by trying to keep God’s commandments in order to be blessed, it will lead to death. There will be deadness in your marriage, ministry, health, career.” </p>
<p>The message is clear: the Ten Commandments are unnecessary, oppressive, and maybe even downright evil.&#8217;</p>
<p>I found out from browsing through the comments to another post in this blogsite that the &#8220;mega church pastor&#8221; referred to by Pastor Kong Hee is actually Joseph Prince from New Creation Church.</p>
<p>By just reading what Pastor Kong Hee has written, I got the impression that Joseph Prince was an anti-law preacher and that was teaching antinomianism.</p>
<p>However, when I traced the quote to its source and read what was quoted in its context, I arrived at a very different conclusion. </p>
<p>The quote, in its proper context, is presented as follows: </p>
<p>&#8220;My friend, when you come under the law by trying to keep God’s commandments on order to be blessed, it will lead to death. There will be deadness in your marriage, ministry, health, career… in your life. But when you depend on the Spirit of grace, it will lead to life. You will see breakthroughs and miracles (Galatians 3:5), and manifest the fruit of the Spirit.&#8221;. </p>
<p>It gives the reader a very different impression when compared to how it was quoted by Pastor Kong Hee,  don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>In any case, the article in its entirety, taken from Joseph Prince&#8217;s &#8220;Destined to Reign Devational&#8221;, is reproduced below. </p>
<p>May 11</p>
<p>CONTINUE IN GOD&#8217;S GRACE</p>
<p>2 Corinthians 3:6 “…for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.&#8221;</p>
<p>To the Jews, the feast of Pentecost is a celebration of the giving of God’s law. It takes place 50 days after the Passover feast. When God gave the Israelites the Ten Commandments at Mount Sinai, it was 50 days after they had celebrated their first Passover and come out of slavery in Egypt.</p>
<p>But what happened after God gave them the law on the first Pentecost? Three thousand people died! (Exodus 32:28) Contrast this with another Pentecost in the New Testament. In the book of Acts, it says when Pentecost had fully come, God gave not the law but the Holy Spirit, and what happened? Three thousand people god saved (Acts 2:41), which goes to show that “the letter [the law] kills, but the Spirit gives life”!</p>
<p>The law, which was “written and engraved on stones”, ministered death. It killed 3,000 people. That is why the apostle Paul calls it “the ministry of death” and “the ministry of condemnation”. (2 Corinthians 3:7-9) On the other hand, the Spirit ministered life – 3,000 people got saved.</p>
<p>My friend, when you come under the law by trying to keep God’s commandments on order to be blessed, it will lead to death. There will be deadness in your marriage, ministry, health, career… in your life. But when you depend on the Spirit of grace, it will lead to life. You will see breakthroughs and miracles (Galatians 3:5), and manifest the fruit of the Spirit.</p>
<p>So if you want to be blessed, make sure that you are on the right mountain. You see, the law was given on Mount Sinai, but the Spirit on Mount Zion. That is why the Bible says that “you have not come to the mountain [Sinai] that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest… But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of angels”. (Hebrews 12:18,22) The Lord blesses you out of Zion (Psalm 128:5), and not Sinai!</p>
<p>Beloved, by grace you have been saved through faith. (Ephesians 2:8) Now, continue in the Spirit of grace. Remain on the right mountain and He will continue to supply miracles in your life!</p>
<p>Thought For The Day: When you depend on the Spirit of grace, you will see breakthroughs, miracles and life.</p>
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		<title>By: tngfamily</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/do-we-need-the-ten-commandments/#comment-4945</link>
		<dc:creator>tngfamily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know the law and yet you did not keep it...Thou shall not covet!!!! 

Didn&#039;t Jesus said of the Pharisees?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know the law and yet you did not keep it&#8230;Thou shall not covet!!!! </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Jesus said of the Pharisees?????</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/do-we-need-the-ten-commandments/#comment-4548</link>
		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>test</description>
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		<title>By: lady</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/do-we-need-the-ten-commandments/#comment-3335</link>
		<dc:creator>lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of Prince&#039;s sermons on ten commandments. Look under Hagar &amp; Sarah #6. I think this is the reply.

No doubt his preaching has been a blessing to many, I have many reservations on some parts of his teachings.

http://www.imeem.com/sgdavid/playlist/T5Go70nL/pastor-joseph-prince-sermon-music-playlist

Scriptually he is right most of the time, but NOT all of what he says is true (not referring just to ten commandments). It is encouraging to hear at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of Prince&#8217;s sermons on ten commandments. Look under Hagar &amp; Sarah #6. I think this is the reply.</p>
<p>No doubt his preaching has been a blessing to many, I have many reservations on some parts of his teachings.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.imeem.com/sgdavid/playlist/T5Go70nL/pastor-joseph-prince-sermon-music-playlist" rel="nofollow">http://www.imeem.com/sgdavid/playlist/T5Go70nL/pastor-joseph-prince-sermon-music-playlist</a></p>
<p>Scriptually he is right most of the time, but NOT all of what he says is true (not referring just to ten commandments). It is encouraging to hear at best.</p>
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		<title>By: A Christian whom Jesus loves</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/do-we-need-the-ten-commandments/#comment-3327</link>
		<dc:creator>A Christian whom Jesus loves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A reply Mr. Stanley Tan,

In Mark 10:17-24, why did Jesus give the man the Ten Commandments?

1, because he didn&#039;t see Jesus as a Saviour. He saw Jesus as a &quot;good teacher&quot;. The man didn&#039;t see his own inability to save himself. If He did, then he would have seen Jesus as His Saviour, and not a pattern to follow. So, of course it is appropriate for Jesus to give the Ten Commandments.

2, because Jesus saw that he was boasting on his own good works.

By the way, the same story can be found in Luke 18.


Another story from Luke 19, one chapter after the above story. Jesus met Zaccheus and visited his house. To a Jewish, it is considered a great honour for someone as respected as Jesus to visit his house. Despite the fact that Zaccheus was a tax collector, Jesus showed him PURE GRACE simply by visiting and eating at his house.

Now, why do think the Holy Spirit put these two stories back to back in Luke 18 and 19? He wants us to see the difference between law and grace.

In Luke 18. What was the result? After given the Ten Commandments, the man walked away sorrowful, and didn&#039;t even give one cent out of his pocket.

In Luke 19. What was the result? Grace opened up Zaccheus&#039; wallet. All of a sudden he became very generous. Half of his riches, he would give to the poor. All the people that he had cheated, he would repay four times.

One more thing, is there anywhere in the Ten Commandments where it says, &quot;Give&quot;? Isn&#039;t it a much deeper revelation to be able to give generously?

Grace, and I am talking about PURE GRACE, will CAUSE us to accomplish much more (including obeying the Ten Commandments) than those who insist on the Ten Commandments alone. There is no way the Ten Commandments will be able to make Zaccheus did what he did. Only PURE GRACE could. It is even implied from the above storied that the Ten Commandments might make us to be stingy.

So, I think, it is not a matter of, &quot;Is the Ten Commandment still for today?&quot; Honestly, I don&#039;t care at all.

The question we should ask is, &quot;WHICH OF THE TWO (the Ten Commandments and grace) WILL CAUSE YOUR LIFE TO ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH MORE?&quot; &quot;WHICH OF THE TWO WILL CAUSE YOU TO GO AN EXTRA MILE OF DOING SOMETHING THAT EVEN The Ten Commandments NEVER COMMANDS YOU TO DO?&quot;

From the stories, it is almost as if the Ten Commandments are hindering us taking that extra mile in our Christian life. So, I don&#039;t think &quot;balance&quot; is good at all. Why would I want something that can hinder me from accomplishing much more?

Those who rely NOT on the &quot;balance&quot;, but the PURE GRACE of GOD are the ones who are going to be accomplishing so much more in their Christian life (including fulfilling the Ten Commandments).

~ From a Christian whom Jesus loves the most ~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reply Mr. Stanley Tan,</p>
<p>In Mark 10:17-24, why did Jesus give the man the Ten Commandments?</p>
<p>1, because he didn&#8217;t see Jesus as a Saviour. He saw Jesus as a &#8220;good teacher&#8221;. The man didn&#8217;t see his own inability to save himself. If He did, then he would have seen Jesus as His Saviour, and not a pattern to follow. So, of course it is appropriate for Jesus to give the Ten Commandments.</p>
<p>2, because Jesus saw that he was boasting on his own good works.</p>
<p>By the way, the same story can be found in Luke 18.</p>
<p>Another story from Luke 19, one chapter after the above story. Jesus met Zaccheus and visited his house. To a Jewish, it is considered a great honour for someone as respected as Jesus to visit his house. Despite the fact that Zaccheus was a tax collector, Jesus showed him PURE GRACE simply by visiting and eating at his house.</p>
<p>Now, why do think the Holy Spirit put these two stories back to back in Luke 18 and 19? He wants us to see the difference between law and grace.</p>
<p>In Luke 18. What was the result? After given the Ten Commandments, the man walked away sorrowful, and didn&#8217;t even give one cent out of his pocket.</p>
<p>In Luke 19. What was the result? Grace opened up Zaccheus&#8217; wallet. All of a sudden he became very generous. Half of his riches, he would give to the poor. All the people that he had cheated, he would repay four times.</p>
<p>One more thing, is there anywhere in the Ten Commandments where it says, &#8220;Give&#8221;? Isn&#8217;t it a much deeper revelation to be able to give generously?</p>
<p>Grace, and I am talking about PURE GRACE, will CAUSE us to accomplish much more (including obeying the Ten Commandments) than those who insist on the Ten Commandments alone. There is no way the Ten Commandments will be able to make Zaccheus did what he did. Only PURE GRACE could. It is even implied from the above storied that the Ten Commandments might make us to be stingy.</p>
<p>So, I think, it is not a matter of, &#8220;Is the Ten Commandment still for today?&#8221; Honestly, I don&#8217;t care at all.</p>
<p>The question we should ask is, &#8220;WHICH OF THE TWO (the Ten Commandments and grace) WILL CAUSE YOUR LIFE TO ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH MORE?&#8221; &#8220;WHICH OF THE TWO WILL CAUSE YOU TO GO AN EXTRA MILE OF DOING SOMETHING THAT EVEN The Ten Commandments NEVER COMMANDS YOU TO DO?&#8221;</p>
<p>From the stories, it is almost as if the Ten Commandments are hindering us taking that extra mile in our Christian life. So, I don&#8217;t think &#8220;balance&#8221; is good at all. Why would I want something that can hinder me from accomplishing much more?</p>
<p>Those who rely NOT on the &#8220;balance&#8221;, but the PURE GRACE of GOD are the ones who are going to be accomplishing so much more in their Christian life (including fulfilling the Ten Commandments).</p>
<p>~ From a Christian whom Jesus loves the most ~</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/do-we-need-the-ten-commandments/#comment-2346</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why most preacher want to call them Reverend by their members?
In the Bible the word &quot;reverend&quot; used only one time and this word used only for God and never mention in any of other Bible character...can you explain this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why most preacher want to call them Reverend by their members?<br />
In the Bible the word &#8220;reverend&#8221; used only one time and this word used only for God and never mention in any of other Bible character&#8230;can you explain this?</p>
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