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		<title>By: JoJo</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/what-up-with-masturbation/comment-page-6/#comment-4142</link>
		<dc:creator>JoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fenny
just want to clarify something... why pursuing wealth is wrong? if it is wrong, why do u even bother to work for money for a living and why bother to work hard and gain a promotion to get pay increment? why pple bother to complain if others get bonus and they do not? 

pursuing wealth to me is not equal to loving money. as u quoted, love of money is the root of all evil. Pursuing wealth n being rich do not equate to loving money. If you pursue higher study , does it mean u love to study? if u pursue for higher promotion in your company, does it mean u love power? being famous , does it mean u love popularity? wat&#039;s so wrong about being rich? wat&#039;s so wrong about desiring riches as long as money doesnt rule my actions and doesnt take the place of God. Being rich enables me to reach out to poorer people, being rich enables me to sow a bigger seed to the kingdom of God, being rich enables me to go more often for mission trips to bless the people in other countries. So many goodness about being rich and u meant to say God doesnt want us to stress on pursue riches? 

forgive me if i do not know the prosperity message, but what u quoted sound unright and also u do not base on one verse &quot;the love of money is root of all evil&quot; and trying to say that God doesnt want us to be rich or pursue riches. Do read up the whole bible and not base on one verse n trying to create a whole doctrine out of it. Not sure about u, but i have read the whole bible at least 7-9 times.. i dont even dare to challenge a pastor who is well verse in the word of God and anointed by God. Most importantly, did you pray over this and God spoke to you and tell you this so call prosperity message is wrong?  

lastly, if God doesnt want us to be rich(note i didnt say LOVE MONEY), there wont be a verses in the bible such as &quot;Corinthians 8:9 (New King James Version)  For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich. 
Dont try to tell me the meaning of poor and the meaning of rich here refer to other context n not money... cos to me, God is a simple God, and a God who wants us to know him not through watever deep doctrine but simply He is a God who loves us and wants the best for us. God being our Abba Father wanting good gifts for us... will he rather us be poor? have some common sense  plse. 

forgive me if i sound harsh.. cos to me , Fenny, u sound unright and also its weird that u raise this topic about money when Pastor Kong is talking about masturbation.  Lets learn to flow with the holy spirit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fenny<br />
just want to clarify something&#8230; why pursuing wealth is wrong? if it is wrong, why do u even bother to work for money for a living and why bother to work hard and gain a promotion to get pay increment? why pple bother to complain if others get bonus and they do not? </p>
<p>pursuing wealth to me is not equal to loving money. as u quoted, love of money is the root of all evil. Pursuing wealth n being rich do not equate to loving money. If you pursue higher study , does it mean u love to study? if u pursue for higher promotion in your company, does it mean u love power? being famous , does it mean u love popularity? wat&#8217;s so wrong about being rich? wat&#8217;s so wrong about desiring riches as long as money doesnt rule my actions and doesnt take the place of God. Being rich enables me to reach out to poorer people, being rich enables me to sow a bigger seed to the kingdom of God, being rich enables me to go more often for mission trips to bless the people in other countries. So many goodness about being rich and u meant to say God doesnt want us to stress on pursue riches? </p>
<p>forgive me if i do not know the prosperity message, but what u quoted sound unright and also u do not base on one verse &#8220;the love of money is root of all evil&#8221; and trying to say that God doesnt want us to be rich or pursue riches. Do read up the whole bible and not base on one verse n trying to create a whole doctrine out of it. Not sure about u, but i have read the whole bible at least 7-9 times.. i dont even dare to challenge a pastor who is well verse in the word of God and anointed by God. Most importantly, did you pray over this and God spoke to you and tell you this so call prosperity message is wrong?  </p>
<p>lastly, if God doesnt want us to be rich(note i didnt say LOVE MONEY), there wont be a verses in the bible such as &#8220;Corinthians 8:9 (New King James Version)  For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich.<br />
Dont try to tell me the meaning of poor and the meaning of rich here refer to other context n not money&#8230; cos to me, God is a simple God, and a God who wants us to know him not through watever deep doctrine but simply He is a God who loves us and wants the best for us. God being our Abba Father wanting good gifts for us&#8230; will he rather us be poor? have some common sense  plse. </p>
<p>forgive me if i sound harsh.. cos to me , Fenny, u sound unright and also its weird that u raise this topic about money when Pastor Kong is talking about masturbation.  Lets learn to flow with the holy spirit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: To wrongagain</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/what-up-with-masturbation/comment-page-6/#comment-3977</link>
		<dc:creator>To wrongagain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>better watch what you say!

how do you he masturbates frequently.

just because you don&#039;t put your name does not mean you cant be charged for libel.

remember ip addresses can be traced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>better watch what you say!</p>
<p>how do you he masturbates frequently.</p>
<p>just because you don&#8217;t put your name does not mean you cant be charged for libel.</p>
<p>remember ip addresses can be traced.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Tan</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/what-up-with-masturbation/comment-page-6/#comment-3612</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Pastor 
now i know whether masturbation is a sin or not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Pastor<br />
now i know whether masturbation is a sin or not</p>
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		<title>By: derrick lee</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/what-up-with-masturbation/comment-page-6/#comment-3551</link>
		<dc:creator>derrick lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my point of view i think masturbation without thinking of sexual thoughts, should be okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my point of view i think masturbation without thinking of sexual thoughts, should be okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Van F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Van F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a good explanation on the topic, giving insights to people. But i will still stand by my choice that masturbation is sin. What ps kong saying is that people can think about sexual thingy now and then, but ps kong, i disagree on some of you view. to me, as a christian we need to be stern to sin matter. sin is sin. and well, in my opinion, masturbation is a for m of sin, that destroys the mental and spiritual lige of people.

anw, thanks for the blog :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a good explanation on the topic, giving insights to people. But i will still stand by my choice that masturbation is sin. What ps kong saying is that people can think about sexual thingy now and then, but ps kong, i disagree on some of you view. to me, as a christian we need to be stern to sin matter. sin is sin. and well, in my opinion, masturbation is a for m of sin, that destroys the mental and spiritual lige of people.</p>
<p>anw, thanks for the blog :)</p>
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		<title>By: wrongagain</title>
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		<dc:creator>wrongagain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop justifying your actions just becos you masturbate frequently 
Masturbation IS A SIN PERIOD!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop justifying your actions just becos you masturbate frequently<br />
Masturbation IS A SIN PERIOD!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Misleading_preachings</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/what-up-with-masturbation/comment-page-6/#comment-3397</link>
		<dc:creator>Misleading_preachings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please stop misleading your already misguided flock with all this trash preachings. You are a complete fake just like the Prince guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please stop misleading your already misguided flock with all this trash preachings. You are a complete fake just like the Prince guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Fenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the prosperity gospel, also known as the “Word of Faith,” the believer is told to use God, whereas the truth of biblical Christianity is just the opposite—God uses the believer. Word of Faith or prosperity theology sees the Holy Spirit as a power to be put to use for whatever the believer wills. The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is a Person who enables the believer to do God&#039;s will. The prosperity gospel movement closely resembles some of the destructive greed sects that infiltrated the early church. Paul and the other apostles were not accommodating to or conciliatory with the false teachers who propagated such heresy. They identified them as dangerous false teachers and urged Christians to avoid them.

Paul warned Timothy about such men in 1 Timothy 6:5, 9-11. These men of “corrupt mind” supposed godliness was a means of gain and their desire for riches was a trap that brought about them “into ruin and destruction” (v. 9). The pursuit of wealth is a dangerous path for Christians and one which God warns about: “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs” (v. 10). If riches were a reasonable goal for the godly, Jesus would have pursued it. But He did not, preferring instead to have no place to lay His head (Matthew 8:20) and teaching His disciples to do the same. It should also be remembered that the only disciple concerned with wealth was Judas.

Paul said covetousness is idolatry (Ephesians 5:5) and instructed the Ephesians to avoid anyone who brought a message of immorality or covetousness (Ephesians 5:6-7). Prosperity teaching prohibits God from working on His own, meaning that God is not Lord of all because He cannot work until we release Him to do so. Faith, according to the Word of Faith doctrine, is not submissive trust in God; faith is a formula by which we manipulate the spiritual laws that prosperity teachers believe govern the universe. As the name “Word of Faith” implies, this movement teaches that faith is a matter of what we say more than who we trust or what truths we embrace and affirm in our hearts.

Instead of stressing the importance of wealth, the Bible warns against pursuing it. Believers, especially leaders in the church (1 Timothy 3:3), are to be free from the love of money (Hebrews 13:5). The love of money leads to all kinds of evil (1 Timothy 6:10). Jesus warned, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man&#039;s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions” (Luke 12:15). In sharp contrast to the Word of Faith emphasis on gaining money and possessions in this life, Jesus said, “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal” (Matthew 6:19). The irreconcilable contradictions between prosperity teaching and the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is best summed up in the words of Jesus in Matthew 6:24, “You cannot serve both God and money.”

Dear Kong Hee, I beg of you, enough of false preachings. The prosperity gospel that you embrace is total HERESY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the prosperity gospel, also known as the “Word of Faith,” the believer is told to use God, whereas the truth of biblical Christianity is just the opposite—God uses the believer. Word of Faith or prosperity theology sees the Holy Spirit as a power to be put to use for whatever the believer wills. The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is a Person who enables the believer to do God&#8217;s will. The prosperity gospel movement closely resembles some of the destructive greed sects that infiltrated the early church. Paul and the other apostles were not accommodating to or conciliatory with the false teachers who propagated such heresy. They identified them as dangerous false teachers and urged Christians to avoid them.</p>
<p>Paul warned Timothy about such men in 1 Timothy 6:5, 9-11. These men of “corrupt mind” supposed godliness was a means of gain and their desire for riches was a trap that brought about them “into ruin and destruction” (v. 9). The pursuit of wealth is a dangerous path for Christians and one which God warns about: “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs” (v. 10). If riches were a reasonable goal for the godly, Jesus would have pursued it. But He did not, preferring instead to have no place to lay His head (Matthew 8:20) and teaching His disciples to do the same. It should also be remembered that the only disciple concerned with wealth was Judas.</p>
<p>Paul said covetousness is idolatry (Ephesians 5:5) and instructed the Ephesians to avoid anyone who brought a message of immorality or covetousness (Ephesians 5:6-7). Prosperity teaching prohibits God from working on His own, meaning that God is not Lord of all because He cannot work until we release Him to do so. Faith, according to the Word of Faith doctrine, is not submissive trust in God; faith is a formula by which we manipulate the spiritual laws that prosperity teachers believe govern the universe. As the name “Word of Faith” implies, this movement teaches that faith is a matter of what we say more than who we trust or what truths we embrace and affirm in our hearts.</p>
<p>Instead of stressing the importance of wealth, the Bible warns against pursuing it. Believers, especially leaders in the church (1 Timothy 3:3), are to be free from the love of money (Hebrews 13:5). The love of money leads to all kinds of evil (1 Timothy 6:10). Jesus warned, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man&#8217;s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions” (Luke 12:15). In sharp contrast to the Word of Faith emphasis on gaining money and possessions in this life, Jesus said, “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal” (Matthew 6:19). The irreconcilable contradictions between prosperity teaching and the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is best summed up in the words of Jesus in Matthew 6:24, “You cannot serve both God and money.”</p>
<p>Dear Kong Hee, I beg of you, enough of false preachings. The prosperity gospel that you embrace is total HERESY!</p>
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		<title>By: Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s depend of one&#039;s intensions, if one&#039;s doing those things, playing his pennis with his hands and on his mind he&#039;s thinking that there is a beautiful naked woman which is not his wife and having sex with her in his mind, he commited sin. (Mathew 5:28)

we have to control ourselves in doing wrong with the eyes of our Creator..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s depend of one&#8217;s intensions, if one&#8217;s doing those things, playing his pennis with his hands and on his mind he&#8217;s thinking that there is a beautiful naked woman which is not his wife and having sex with her in his mind, he commited sin. (Mathew 5:28)</p>
<p>we have to control ourselves in doing wrong with the eyes of our Creator..</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.konghee.com/www/2009/06/what-up-with-masturbation/comment-page-6/#comment-3313</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think originally sex was created by God between male and female for the purpose of procreation. It was never intended for personal gratification.&quot;

Assuming the female pleasure/orgasm is not necessary for procreation, why the female clitoris?  Was the clitoris a mistake?  The sole purpose of the clitoris is pleasure and pleasure only!
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&quot;And if anyone is completely dependent upon Holy Spirit, there will be no desire to gratify the flesh.&quot;  

Is an &quot;over-eating-addiction&quot; leading to obesity and a unhealthy body/lifestyle a &quot;desire to gratify the flesh&quot; therefore sinful?
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Please consider a husband and wife separated by time and distance, who fantasizes about their spouse &amp; masturbates.  Is that sinful? 

Is Biblical &quot;lust&quot; always sinful?

If a husband or wife &quot;lusts&quot; after his/her spouse, is that biblically sinful?   

Pastor, thanks for discussing masturbation and the Bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think originally sex was created by God between male and female for the purpose of procreation. It was never intended for personal gratification.&#8221;</p>
<p>Assuming the female pleasure/orgasm is not necessary for procreation, why the female clitoris?  Was the clitoris a mistake?  The sole purpose of the clitoris is pleasure and pleasure only!<br />
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<p>&#8220;And if anyone is completely dependent upon Holy Spirit, there will be no desire to gratify the flesh.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Is an &#8220;over-eating-addiction&#8221; leading to obesity and a unhealthy body/lifestyle a &#8220;desire to gratify the flesh&#8221; therefore sinful?<br />
_____________________</p>
<p>Please consider a husband and wife separated by time and distance, who fantasizes about their spouse &amp; masturbates.  Is that sinful? </p>
<p>Is Biblical &#8220;lust&#8221; always sinful?</p>
<p>If a husband or wife &#8220;lusts&#8221; after his/her spouse, is that biblically sinful?   </p>
<p>Pastor, thanks for discussing masturbation and the Bible.</p>
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