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“Build houses and dwell in them; plant gardens and eat their fruit. Take wives and beget sons and daughters; and take wives for your sons and give your daughters to husbands, so that they may bear sons and daughters—that you may be increased there, and not diminished. And seek the peace of the city where I have caused you to be carried away captive, and pray to the Lord for it; for in its peace you will have peace” (Jer. 29:5-7). |
| They were to put down their roots, establish businesses and profit from them. They were to assimilate themselves fully into the culture by raising their families, to increase and not diminish in their presence and contribution to the society. They were not to be antagonistic as a community but to seek the peace and prosperity of the world God had placed them in, knowing that if their city prospered, they too would prosper. It was precisely in that setting of a multi-religious culture that God promised His people, |
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“For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope” (29:11). |
| This is a promise to all Christians who are living in this present world. In fact, our greatest value to God is right here in our society, not when we get to heaven. Truth be told, heaven is just a temporary holding place for us before we return to earth to rule and reign with Christ. Like the Bible heroes Joseph, Daniel and Esther, we need to adopt a non-antagonistic stance toward our multi-religious world. Relationship precedes ministry. In our interface with people of different faiths, the central issue is always one of trust. Do non-Christians trust us enough for us to speak truth, wisdom and blessing into their lives? |
| The PM talked about “noise, parking, joss sticks, stray ashes, dog hair, etc.” Let us ensure that our weekly cell group meetings are not a constant source of noise pollution and nuisance to our neighbors. Let us not park indiscriminately (or illegally) when we come for church gatherings. Let us live the words of Jesus Christ to love our neighbors as ourselves (Matt. 22:39). May our neighborliness and consideration be evident to all. |
| PM: In itself, there is nothing wrong with people becoming more religious. Religion is a positive force in human societies. It provides spiritual strength, guidance, solace and a sense of purpose to many, especially in our fast-changing and uncertain world. But stronger religious fervor can have side effects which must be managed carefully, particularly in a multi-religious society. [For example:] Aggressive proselytization: pushing one’s religion on others, causing nuisance and offence … the distribution of Christian tracts with contents that are offensive to other faiths … Groups trying to convert very ill patients in hospitals. |
| The PM is certainly not against conversion or the sharing of our faith, but he is exhorting us to do it in a civil manner. In our zeal to win others to Christ, we should not be “pushing” our faith on others, “causing nuisance and offence.” I can’t agree with him more. Never once in the Gospels do we find Jesus scolding, shaming or condemning people into believing in Him. If Jesus ever got agitated, it was always to rebuke the religious scribes and Pharisees in the synagogues—people who shared His belief, who had the form but not the substance of the faith. But when it comes to the general public, Jesus was considered a friend to those whose lifestyle and religious beliefs were very different from His (Matt. 11:19, Luke 7:34). He was a natural in befriending, relating and communicating with them. |
| We see the same with Paul when he was in Athens. Though he was in a city whose citizens worshiped many different gods and idols (Acts 17:16), Paul remained gracious and polite in his interaction with the Athenians, even commending them for their religious longing (17:22). Sure, he was uncompromising in his presentation of the gospel, but he did it with great sensitivity, civility and in a non-pressuring manner, allowing his newfound friends to decide for themselves if they wanted to embrace his faith (17:32-34). |
| “Evangelism” is the sharing of good news. It is a good word. This term is even used in secular arenas today. For example, Google has a “chief internet evangelist,” tasked to promote and market the products and services Google is offering. On the other hand, the word “proselytization” evokes a negative connotation. It is the inordinate, overly zealous pushing of one’s religion at the expense of causing offense. In some societies without religious freedom, proselytization is the enforced conversion of the masses by the dominant local religion. It is insensitive and borders on harassment. Personally, I get very upset if someone aggressively tries to push his religious belief upon me or puts down my own Christian beliefs. Just like the indiscriminate touting of commercial products by insensitive salespeople at shopping malls can be irritating, proselytization is a huge turn off to many. |
| The way we grow CHC is not by “selling” the gospel, but by “serving” people. Jesus gives us the New Testament model of effective evangelism in Luke 10. He says that whenever we interface with nonbelievers, we must learn to be gracious, to bless and be encouraging in our words (10:5). We should build a genuine friendship with the people of different faiths, fellowshiping and sharing meals with them (10:7). We must then seek to serve them and meet their practical needs (10:9). And only when their hearts are open to us can we share the gospel of the kingdom of God to them (10:9). The pattern is clear: be gracious, befriend, meet needs, and then when they are open, share the gospel. Again, the underlying principle is clear—relationship precedes ministry. |
| The impersonal, indiscriminate “handbill saturations” done by Singapore churches in the 1980s have never proven to be effective. Instead, it has made a nuisance out of Christians in the community, giving us the image of being an overzealous bunch of religious fanatics. Yes, as Christians, we do believe that people without Christ will go into a godless eternity; but there is always a right time and a right way of sharing the gospel to nonbelievers. When we serve people lovingly and unconditionally with no ulterior motives, the opportunity to evangelize will naturally present itself. |
| PM: Intolerance—not respecting the beliefs of others, or accommodating others who belong to different religions, sometimes even within same families. Children who have converted from their parents’ religion, and decline to fulfill funeral rites of parents, or even stay away from the funerals [is] the ultimate unfilial act. |
| Again, Bible heroes like Joseph, Daniel, Esther and Paul have proven that being with people of different faiths does not “contaminate” their spiritual purity to God. Joseph had a diviner’s cup given to him by the Pharaoh (Gen. 44:5). Daniel worked among the magicians and sorcerers of Babylon (Dan. 4:7-9; 5:11-12). Esther was a beauty queen who lived in the harem of the Persian king (Esther 2). Being with Athenian idol worshipers didn’t mean that Paul had become one himself (Acts 17:16-17). |
| In fact, one of the greatest ways to demonstrate the reality of Christ is by loving people who are radically different from you (John 13:34-35). Loving people means accepting them just the way they are and treating them with respect even when you don’t agree with them. |
| The PM talked about filial piety. Honoring our parents is not only an Asian culture, it is a sacred biblical value. The Fifth Commandment states, “Honor your father and your mother, as the Lord your God has commanded you, that your days may be long, and that it may be well with you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you” (Deut. 5:16). To stay away from our parents’ or grandparents’ funerals because the rites are unchristian is truly the “ultimate unfilial act.” At moments of grief, as loving Christians, we need to stand with our family and walk with them “through the valley of the shadow of death” (Ps. 23:4). We should “fear no evil” (grieving the Lord, being demonized, etc.) having the confidence that God is with us (23:5). Remember, we are already covered by the blood of Jesus Christ and have the Holy Spirit in us. |
| The trickier part is the fulfilling of funeral rites. This is where we need to be more spiritually discerning because not all portions of a funeral rite are religious or superstitious in nature. Showing honor and respect to the dead doesn’t mean you are worshiping them. Whenever possible, in the non-religious traditions, we should do them in solidarity with our families. |
| PM: Exclusiveness—segregating into separate exclusive circles, and not integrating with those of other faiths. This could be a direct preference to stay within own group or an indirect result of intolerance. Example, preferring not to share meals with others, or disapproving of yoga and taiji practices, because they allegedly contain religious elements. |
| First of all, Jesus tells us to share meals with nonbelievers (Luke 10:7). This should be a nonissue for us Christians. |
| But what about yoga and taiji? Yoga is often associated with Hinduism, and taiji with Taoism. But it is undeniable that the health elements of these physical disciplines are beneficial to the human body. So again, the question lies in whether is there anything religious in them. It all depends on the context they are practiced in and the instructors who teach them. In Singapore, as with many metropolitan cities around the world, yoga and taiji are taught as forms of physical fitness systems in sports gyms, just like aerobics and Pilates, devoid of any superstitious elements. |
| John Calvin (1509-1564), in his Commentary On First Corinthians, teaches that any good contribution by nonbelievers to society, as long as it is free from religious superstition, should be freely employed by Christians for his or her own enjoyment, for the glory of God. |
| I personally know of Spirit-filled pastors in Taiwan and Indonesia who regularly practice qigong. They certainly don’t pray to idols, recite chants, believe in magical powers, or embrace Taoism. And they certainly don’t get possessed by demons. None of the Christian leaders I know who practice yoga and taiji regularly have lost their spiritual consecration to the Lord Jesus Christ. |
| But aren’t the roots of these ancient exercises unchristian or even anti-Christian? Well, if you go by that reasoning, then we shouldn’t even celebrate Christmas with Christmas trees. There is no dispute that the origin of Christmas trees is pagan. The ancient Egyptians decorated their homes with tree branches during the winter solstice as symbols of the afterlife. Heathen Greeks used them to worship their god, Adonia. Pagan Romans decorated their trees during their midwinter festivals in honor of the sun god. In Northern Europe, the ancient Germanic people tied fruit and attached candles to evergreen tree branches in honor of god Woden. (By the way, this is the deity after which Wednesday was named.) |
| In fact, the English Puritans long condemned the use of the Christmas trees, yule logs, hollies, mistletoes, etc. Oliver Cromwell preached against “the heathen traditions” of Christmas carols, decorated trees and any joyful expression that desecrated “that sacred event.” Yet, over the years, the Christmas tree has been “de-idolized” to become a major Christian symbol celebrating the birth of Christ. To people everywhere, it is a symbol of hope for the New Year and the future return of warmth to the earth. Churches today have “singing Christmas trees” and carols are sung to herald the birth of Christ. What originated as something totally unchristian has become very Christian over time. |
| Titus 1:15 says, “To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.” Don’t do anything you are uncomfortable with in your heart. But at the same time, don’t condemn others who do not share your personal preferences or convictions, or think of them as lesser followers of Christ than you. |
| PM: All groups must exercise tolerance and restraint. Christians cannot expect Singapore to be a Christian society, ditto Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and other groups. Many faiths share this island. Each has different teachings and practices. Rules which apply only to one group cannot be made into laws that apply to everyone. Muslims do not drink alcohol, but alcohol is not banned; ditto gambling, which several religions disapprove of. All must adopt “live and let live” as our guiding principle … Secondly, religion must stay separate from politics … Third, Government must remain secular. Government authority derives from the mandate of the people. Laws are not based on divine authority, but enacted by Parliament based on the public interest. |
| The Bible teaches repeatedly about the “royal law” (James 2:8), commonly known as the Golden Rule: treat others in the same manner you wish to be treated yourself. I often ask myself, as a Christian, if I live in a state whose dominant religion is say, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism or Mormonism, do I want the values of those religions to be legislated as laws and imposed upon me? Definitely not. Even as a lover of the Holy Scripture, do I want the ceremonial, dietary and civil laws of Old Testament Judaism to be imposed on me? Definitely not. Now, putting myself in the shoes of the adherents of other faiths, how would they feel if they hear us spewing rhetoric about a Christian state where biblical commandments are enforced as law to all? I am sure the reaction would not be dissimilar to mine if the table is turned. |
| Look, even among the body of Christ we can’t all agree to the style and philosophy of ministry. If we have a Christian government seeking to establish a Christian state, whose denominational doctrine are we going to follow? Anglican? Baptist? Assemblies of God? Roman Catholic? Church of Christ? I shudder just to think of the amount of religious legalism that would be mandated upon Faith-Charismatic, contemporary churches if that happens. |
| Is it God’s will to have a Christian geopolitical state in this dispensation? I doubt it. Even after the resurrection, the ever zealous disciples asked Jesus, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” To that, Jesus answered, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority” (Acts 1:6-7). Looking at the Holy Scripture, that is not going to happen anytime soon in this dispensation. |
| The beauty of a democracy is that human rights and freedom can be pursued for the common good of all. I believe in the separation of religion and politics. Christianity is a freewill religion. I wouldn’t want our commandments to be enforced on others who don’t follow the teachings of Christ. As much as he was persecuted for his faith, Paul didn’t advocate the overthrow of the oppressive Roman government. |
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Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you. The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong. So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience. Pay your taxes, too, for these same reasons. For government workers need to be paid. They are serving God in what they do. Give to everyone what you owe them: Pay your taxes and government fees to those who collect them, and give respect and honor to those who are in authority. (Rom. 13:1-7) |
| Paul endorsed the secular state of Rome even with Nero Caesar on the throne. Paul teaches that we should submit to secular laws, pay taxes, respect and honor the political leaders in authority, even if they are secular in nature. In fact, Paul wants us to regularly pray for them. |
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Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence (1 Tim. 2:1-2). |
| When a secular state guarantees “The Four Freedoms” enshrined in the United Nation Human Rights Charter: (1) freedom of speech and expression, (2) freedom of worship, (3) freedom from poverty and lack, and (4) freedom from fear, the gospel can thrive in that society. I certainly wouldn’t want any government to legislate what I should believe, and how I should worship or carry out my faith. I greatly doubt that the unchurched public would appreciate us forcing them to embrace our spiritual convictions either. Let us continue to keep religion and politics separate as much as possible. |
| PM: [Concerning the recent AWARE controversy:] On homosexuality policy or sexuality education in schools, there can be strong differences in view; but government’s position on these issues is clear. |
| My position on this hot button issue is this: gay or straight, heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual, we want to introduce everyone to the love of Jesus Christ. But how are they going to encounter that if gays and lesbians perceive the Church as hostile toward their community? As the shepherd over my flock, I don’t want my members exposed to any unwelcome, predatory sexual advances made by anyone—be that person straight or gay. But if he or she doesn’t pose a direct, negative influence over the congregation, we should indeed adopt a “live and let live” attitude. We are all sinners saved by grace. I want City Harvest Church to focus on the issue of salvation, not sexual orientation. Once someone is saved, I trust the Word of God and the Holy Spirit to lead them into all truth and sanctification. |
| PM: Hence, we also invited religious leaders to be here with us tonight. Help your flocks to understand our limitations and guide them to practise their faith taking our context into account. Please teach them accommodation, as this is what all religions preach. I look forward to religious communities continuing to do good for Singapore. |
| “Tolerance,” “accommodation,” “mutual respect” and “being accepting” are all buzzwords of City Harvest Church. These are not foreign or new concepts to us. These are the values of new covenant Christianity. This is how we have always run CHC. They are an integral part of our DNA. In the last 20 years, we have grown our church by loving and serving people, not by knocking down other races, religions or communities. Let us continue to stay engaged to our culture as the salt and light of the earth (Matt. 5:13-16), promoting the common good for all. |
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Thanks Pastor for sharing…..
Pastor, this is AWESOME! :D:D:D:D:D:D
Hey Pastor Kong, saw you on TV the other day :-)
Regarding your article, I would agree with most of what you say, but I’ll emphasise certain points for the sake of readers. I think when it comes to religious harmony, education is an important component.
While being in church ministry is good, it is helpful to step outside of the church and really get to know the people in the world who are not Christians or even of different denominations. Certainly, the world is bigger than CHC, and there is a lot we can learn too from the people outside of our own church.
I’ve written substantially on this, readers can read it here.
For example, recently I had lunch with a bunch of gay Christians from Free Community Church (whose teachings are different from ours). Talking to them really made me understand the pain they go through, including rejection from friends, the church etc.
While the Cultural Mandate exhorts us to go into the world, we must be mindful that the Cultural Mandate must be exercised with good wisdom and judgment. Don’t enter the world if you don’t know the world, that’s my maxim.
In the case of the Aware saga, it was the case of Christians having good intentions but doing it the wrong way. I have blogged my opinions on this here. The rally also spoke of a Christian couple who were jailed for distributing banned Christian tracts. In their case, a lack of knowledge once again ruined them. Upon closer inspection, it became apparent that these tracts contain material that is blatantly false. Any Muslim would be upset at what the tracts contained.
Lastly, while I agree it is good to accept gays as part of our church community, I wonder if they can truly can be changed. Based on my research in this extensive article, it is apparent that change is only possible for very few gay Christians. And even if they change, they still retain some of their feminine traits.
For the majority of gay Christians, change is something that remains illusive and extremely difficult. We need to ask ourselves at this point of time the following questions:
1) Is homosexuality really a choice? Given the discrimination faced by gays in our community, who would really want to be gay? If homosexuality is not a choice, is it a sin?
2) What does the Bible say about homosexuality, and are the verses in the Bible that appear to oppose homosexuality actually opposing homosexuality? What is the context of these verses, and can they be applied for today?
3) Can the Bible possibly with wrong about homosexuality, just as how it has supported slavery and been silent about women’s rights? We must note that words like “homosexual” and “sexual orientation” did not exist at that time. What the bible condemns is same-sex acts, but not the sexual identity of homosexuality per se. Is it therefore wrong to be homosexual?
Thank you, Pastor. You have lifted a heavy cloud off my mind. God is a great God, and Pastor, you are a great Pastor! ^^
Very well said, Pastor. One of the most important thing to take note when reaching is racial harmony. That is to respect the religions and traditions of others even though we may not necessarily agree to them. It’s through serving people faithfully with love that we can them to Christ.
In today’s modern Singapore not only as members of CHC, but also as children of God, we have to know how to correctly reach out to people with love and sincerity without out rightly condemning their practices and forcing the gospel on them. We do the talking and caring, God opens their hearts. Through that, we can then successfully win the lost. I speak this from a former non-believers point of view. I was converted not because I heard the gospel, but because my friends showed me the genuine care and concern that was very Christ-like.
One again, I appreciate the effort that you took to write this blog pastor. It is very informative and meaningful. Seriously, you can consider writing a book already. Hahaha. Take care pastor and I hope to see more stuff on your blog.
Regards,
Mel
Thanks Pastor, its an eye opener……indeed. GREAT!!!
Once again Pastor, an enriching, well-thought and balanced sharing of your opinion. To know that CHC’s values and practices promote social cohesion and religious tolerance amidst our love and passion for the things of God bears testament to our steadfast commitment to the Word of God. In sum, to love God wholeheartedly and also people fervently (regardless of race or religion). And love is all about giving and serving the interests of others.
Truly, everything rises and falls with leadership. We must continue to pray that our government enacts sound, wise and farsighted policies in our society for the benefit of all.
Thanks and God bless!
Pastor, I’ve always envied America because there seems to be so much freedom to express their faith. They have Christian TV, Christian this, Christian that and all these channels are easily accessible to the believers… but we don’t enjoy that kind of freedom here. However, after I read your point , “I often ask myself, as a Christian, if I live in a state whose dominant religion is say, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism or Mormonism, do I want the values of those religions to be legislated as laws and imposed upon me? Definitely not.” and so on, I now understand why it is best that Singapore remains a secular state. Thanks pst! :)
Another point, “My position on this hot button issue is this: gay or straight, heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual, we want to introduce everyone to the love of Jesus Christ. But how are they going to encounter that if gays and lesbians perceive the Church as hostile toward their community?” lets me know that if ever I decide to visit a gay club one day, I am not doing something wrong. In fact, it’s indirectly letting them know that we Christians are not hostile toward gays. Come to think of it, if there were a gay club in Jesus’ time, he wouldn’t be one to despise the people in it, but instead, would accept them for who they are! ;)
Pastor, so proud of you!
Pst Kong, I totally agree with your stand and also PM’s stand (:
I feel that we should really practise social cohesion and just like what the Bible says, we need to go therefore and make disciples of all the nations and also practise healthy relationship with other religions (:
Thank you for addressing on this issue.
Those who, in their so-called zeal, try to “push” our faith on others to cause “nuisance and offence” have forgotten that it is the Holy Spirit that convicts, and saves.
Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord..
Wow pastor. I totally agree with what you said. Cultural Mandate. Awesome.
pastor, tks for answering my doubts.
You are a great pastor, God bless You!!
Hope to hear good news from you!! I believe that as we pray, greater things will come our way!!
Hi Pastor, i see so many references back to the Cultural Mandate Msg. You’re always at the forefront! Thanks for working tirelessly and obeying the call of God to teach us the Cultural Mandate.
Pastor, truly you have done it once again.
Your ability to open up the minds of so many people is really amazing. I thank God to have a pastor as courageous as you!
Once again, good job pastor!
Thank you Pastor for taking time to blog again, you never fail to amaze us with your boldness and excellence in writing!
I agree with the timely speech by PM Lee and your precious comments. Especially on secular state, filial piety, tolerance.
Singapore is blessed. The racial & religious harmony found here is undoubtedly one of the best in the world. I know, because of where i come from :)
Thank you pastor for sharing with us deeply into your side of view on these heart burning issues.. Really appreciate it..
I believe God is always here, in this society over watching us prospers..
Pastor,
Thank you once again, for sharing with us biblical truths in a manner that is most sensible and easy to understand.
This is great sharing. Christians should stand in unity with all other Singaporeans and be gracious, accepting and sensitive to each other.
Best Christian Commentary on this current hot topic! “Great Navigation”!!!
Hi Pastor Kong!
I saw you on tv too! :)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! It’s really a good read! Appreciate your time taken to write it! I am proud to be in CHC!
God Bless!
Dear Pastor,
Really enjoyed reading your your blog entry! It’s wonderful to read how you’ve articulated the role of new covenant Christianity on social values, social cohesion and social responsibility in light of the National Day Rally speech by PM Lee. It also reaffirms the belief that you’ve been teaching us as a church in the Cultural Mandate message. As Christians engage our world, we build bridges so that we can love and serve our community with the love of Christ. To be in the world, to bless the world and shine the Light! Thank you Pastor for your thought leadership!
Pastor Kong, thanks for sharing! This is an awesome post (: I love reading your blog, continue blogging! :D
Bless to be living in a racial, religious harmonious society; Singapore. Thank God for religion freedom in our society. =)
Hi Pastor,
I enjoyed reading this post! I too saw the NDR live, and I think the way you ‘dissected’ this to make this relevant to CHC and Christians today is phenomenal! Thanks for writing about this!
Dear Terence,
After reading your comments, I can’t help but think that you are using Ps Kong’s blog as a platform with your own agenda. I read your blogs and links, and I know that you are a contributing journalist to the online citizen. While I appreciate your inputs, I have serious doubts on your motives and integrity.
For example, you mentioned:
[ While being in church ministry is good, it is helpful to step outside of the church and really get to know the people in the world who are not Christians or even of different denominations. Certainly, the world is bigger than CHC, and there is a lot we can learn too from the people outside of our own church.
I’ve written substantially on this, readers can read it here. ]
I did not know where you get the idea that Ps Kong is suggesting in his article for CHC to be inward looking. Your comments are biased as you seem to suggest that Ps Kong is just concerned about CHC only. CHC has been actively involved in our interaction with different denominations, and even people from other faiths, as well as different government organisations. I could only conclude that your comment is to link others to your blog.
Your comments:
[ While the Cultural Mandate exhorts us to go into the world, we must be mindful that the Cultural Mandate must be exercised with good wisdom and judgment. Don’t enter the world if you don’t know the world, that’s my maxim. ]
Your comments on Cultural Mandate seem to suggest that either you are an expert on the topic, or CHC is ignorance in engaging the culture. Apparently you have just broken your own maxim on “Don’t enter the world if you don’t know the world.” I would suggest you exercise good wisdom and judgment in posing your comments, cos’ you sounded smart, but in reality, you are exposing your ignorance.
Again for the case on the Aware, you are still trying to promote your blog … sighs …
As for your comments on homosexuality, I read your “extensive article” and realise it is not that extensive after all. What you offer in your articles is based on a couple of interviews that you have done, as well as some statistics you have gathered from somewhere. Based on your secular, “extensive article”, you have concluded that change is possible only for a few persons … I had a good laugh! Probably you have not met many of those who have changed?
I think you mentioned that you are a Christian, but I would like to encourage you to really evaluate your Christian faith. I have also seen your other posts in the other topics, and I am concerned you are steering towards liberal view in your Christian faith, which is not advisable. Even though as Christians we should reason with great intellectual abilities, our faith is still not built on human wisdom, but on the power of God. I became a Christian not because someone persuaded me to, but rather it is my encounter with the risen Christ.
1 Cor 1: 22-24
“For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.”
1 Cor 2: 4-5
“And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.”
My prayer for you is that you will experience a fresh encounter with God so that your faith can be deepened in the power of Christ.
God Bless!
TKH
Dear Pastor,
Great write up and evaluation! I never cease to be amazed by your acute observation and conclusion!
Thank you once again!
TKH
I certainly can’t agree more with what Pastor has written here, we can’t expect Singapore to be a totally Christian Society and call it a Christian Nation but rather be tolerant and accepting to other religions.
I think its great for our own leader to be able to speak up and share his thoughts on this matter, spending time to clarify his stand on what the PM speech was on.
Kudos to Pst for taking the time to write this in such a short period of time.
Hi Pastor Kong,
Fascinating blog. Great insight. Your world view on Christianity and the Cultural Mandate is the template for the 21st century. Together with PM Lee, you have addressed those pertinent and thorny issues that belies our calm and peaceful society. Indeed, Pastor, you have spelled out for us what ‘Loving God wholeheartedly and loving people fervently’ means in the most pragmatic and positive way. 3 cheers!
Edward
Dear Pastor,
I fully agree and support your views and comments on this ND Rally topic!
God Bless
TKH,
nothing wrong with self-promotion eh, especially if it contributes to positive discussion? But if I appear too blatant or forceful, then I apologise.
I do have an agenda, believe it or not, and that is to promote critical thinking and to provoke questions. I don’t claim to have all the answers. I don’t, period.
You are free to criticise my character or whatever, that is your choice. I just find it sad that you would judge my character as a whole based on my comments and one blog =(
Let me say categorically: I am not an expert on the cultural mandate. I do not claim to be an expert, and I have never said I am an expert. I am just trying to apply what I learnt into my writing.
You seem to be thinking I am accusing the church of not exercising the cultural mandate with good wisdom and judgment. That is not true. I am not criticising the church. I am just saying that the Cultural Mandate must be balanced with wisdom.
Once again, you accuse me of criticising CHC for being inward-looking. That is not true at all. I am just exhorting church members that even as we serve faithfully in church ministry, we must remember to step outside the world. That is all I am trying to say.
It is unfortunate that my statements sound like I am making accusations, and for that i apologise for the misunderstanding.
In any case, I am very happy to meet those who claim to have changed. Maybe we could arrange such a meeting?I would love to arrange this with you, and write a part 2 to my article :-)
But I have met those who genuinely tried to change, but have failed. What do we make of them? In fact, based on my interviews, those who failed to change outnumbered those who were able to change.
As for me moving towards liberal Christianity, I understand what you are trying to say. And that is exactly what I am doing right now: evaluating my Christian faith. That is all I am concerned about doing.
To me, there is definitely a role for encounters with God in my life, but that must be balanced by reason. One cannot do without the other. Like it or not, we often explain the Bible using our common sense, as much as we rely on the Spirit. Surely God has given us reason for a purpose?
But just curious, what encounter led you to receive Christ?
Hi Pastor!
I love your blog, it always gives a clear answer to my questions.
Im an Indonesian and have always been amazed with the way Christian can engage freely towards the community and government here in Singapore.
When you mention about living in a country where other religion is a majority, I remember my own experience in Indonesia. We were always ‘fighting’ for our freedom to express our religion to the community and be mindful not to impose our faith to others in order to avoid being seen as ‘pushing’ Christianity.
But I realize tat being the part or the majority religion needs the same amount of care to make sure other ppl won’t get offended by what we are doing.
This post certainly is a good reminder for us to be tolerant to others at all time.
Thank you!!
Dear Pastor Kong,
Great review on the PM’s speech. I quite agree with you on all the points, and especially with regards to PM’s comments on forcing pple with leaflets or groups trying to convert pple in hospitals. Honestly even though I’m a Christian, i’ve been annoyed by overly persistent Christians before, and thats why non-Christian friends of mine think Christians are plain annoying and too pushy.
About being inward-looking, actually thats quite a real problem, even in CHC. I’ve got friends who proudly claim that they only hang out with their ministry friends, or who only listen to Christian songs, or who give a weird stare or gossip about pple who have a different sexual orientation even if they’re in the same church. I hope that the church encourages the members to really step into the shoes of non-Christians and help them, understand their plight and point of view, and be exposed to different ideologies and lifestyles, before trying to preach the gospel to them.
Kudos to your commentary on the PM’s speech, look forward to reading more constructive criticism and comments from you and your readers.
Hi Pst. Kong,
Awesome blog, as always! You are fearless, going into areas where other men fear to tread =). Awaiting your next blog.
Godspeed.
Loving God hearted, loving people ferently.
After reading your article, find that bring friend(s) to church not easy.
Last time as PM Lee had said, I was very charmatic, printing out flyer among us in a group, inviting them non believers to church. I hope my friends were not finding me offensive doing that and I had already exercise their right and decision to give them a choice receiving our faith after coming to our meeting hearing the gospel.
I’m privileged to have been grafted into the CHC family.. and Singapore..
What a privilege it is and I believe there is no church nor nation who lives out this belief in racial and religious harmony better than CHC and the nation of Singapore!
Quite recently I got “evangelized” to by a participant of a well-known MLM program. The person was deceptive, overly persuasive and not straight with the persuasive arguments being used. Sadly enough, it was also a member of our church.
So naturally, it is easy for me to draw parallels between the tract-distributing evangelism that you mentioned in your article, and the way in which I was targeted as a “potential”. I have nothing against MLMs in particular, it’s predatory people that I am naturally suspicious and alienated against. I guess that is what people are really talking about when they say they hate christians. Just my 2 cents.
Pastors, members and all Christian do agreed that no Church is a Perfect Church. While we can enjoy and Kudos to our past success.
While some may scorn at any secular setup, they failed to see how God had used secular world to affect people to come back to their first love, God almighty.
Also certain part of the Church, in certain part of the Zone, in certain part of the Cell Group, the shadow of darkness is lurking in there.
“Rev 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
Re:2:14: But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
Re:2:16: Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
Re:2:20: Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Indeed, our Lord had love the Church very much so much that he caused the economic chaos to slow down the raising of the 2 horns.
Yes, the 2 horns in this secular world indeed had been wounded and their job of completion must be delayed because the house of
God is not ready! The number is reaching and yet the place is not yet found. Many souls will be saved from the secular horns that will in operation soon!
When will my bride ever humble and listen to the words from the little one whom I had given words? The marketplace is mine to build not yours.
Embracing foolishness of human intelligent to seek the place is like chasing after the wind, while words of wisdom has already been given, many turned a deaf ear.
Teaching the people of Israel to ignore prophecy instead of listening and use the Scale and ruling rod which I had given to make measure and prospers.
Come back to your first love! see how far off you are going away from the original intent! Remember how the Angel Lucifer had fallen? It is because of pride. Remember the price of ignorant and disobedient is spiritual death. I am causing the confusion of the carnal minded who were in control by the cunning Shadow of darkness, these people had been lurking in my Church for too long.
They plant weeds in the young one’s mind and fornicate with the teachings of doctrine of Balaam. They are making sacrifices to the idols they had built-up
to worship in their mind. If you see this signs in them, and if you are called to be faithful, you will extend your love to them and help to set them free
from uncertain death. Many prophets had been sent to warn them of their wrongs doing but they choose to rebel against repentence. Only if you act fast to repent and let things turn around, then you throne will not be taken away!”
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Hi Pastor Kong
As usual interesting topic with bold comments. Really looking forward for your next article.
To TKH,
Though I agree with you on some points. But, I will like to suggest to you not to response any further to Terence (1) we should learn to enlarge our heart to accept different opinions (2) we should learn to filter infomation for our own good.
Hope you don’t mind my suggestion. But, hey, I really like your writing….
Thank you Pastor for your detailed insights and timely reminders
to us that as members of a Church (a great one ) and as members
of a multiracial muti cultural society , our ways and speech need
to bear all hallmarks of grace and be offense free..may all
CHC members be found faultless in this respect ,
Shalom Pastor
hi Pastor!
as a student, i’ve studied about how ethnic conflicts prevailed and resulted in persistent instability in many nations around the world, which also include the nations in SEA. hence i really thank God for the freedom of worship practised here in Singapore, because there is no particular faith in which its people will be at advantage or disadvantage.. i really hope that all Christians, especially the members of CHC, will be able to appreciation and not take for granted the religious harmony we have in Singapore :)
p.s. i really love what you said about “the fulfilling of funeral rites”.
God bless!
Hi Pastor Kong!
Thanks for spending time to write such extensive review.
It’s really insightful and I believe this will teach many people the right way to live out their christian values and teachings.
Truly, showing love and serving people should not be based on race or religion. With such mentality, i think this world can be a better place to live in. :)
Thank you Pastor once again for sharing this. I’m greatly blessed by this review. :)
Hi Pastor,
I totally agree with your views on the national day rally speech! However, the part on fulfilling of funeral rites I am not very clear. I remembered about 2 years ago when my grandfather passed away, I had to fulfill my duties because in the chinese tradition, I am considered his eldest grandson. And being the eldest grandson, there are many things and ritual I had to follow as it was a taoist wake. My grandparents, uncles, aunties and even my parents are not christians except my cousins who brought me to CHC.
My cousins did exactly what you describe in your blog like they do respect my grandfather and did not worship any idols but for me, as the eldest grandson, I did everything I was told as I didnt want to upset my parents and I didnt want my relatives to say that I am not filial. I held on to the word “honor your father and your mother” and followed through the ceremony and thank God for my cell leader who gave me support throughout the wake.
I confess I did felt a guilty at the beggining and repented during service immediately. Thankfully, I am still as on fire for God today as I was before the funeral. =) Today, I still follow my parents to temples to pay respect to my grandparents but didnt engage in any religious worship.
Pastor, thank you for your blogpost that clear some of my doubts. =)
Hey Pastor Kong, this is an awesome extensive blog article about racial harmony and deals with many aspects of various issues that many probably have questions about.
Hey Terence, that’s a really well-written blog you have there. We must truly always examine our faith and be ready to give a defense of it. I was wondering though, how do would we be able to engage the world if we don’t go ahead to enter it? As surely as we must learn as much about the world as we can before entering it, yet without experiencing and entering it, none of us would be able to step into it. Of course the recent acts of indiscriminate Christians may cause one to reevaluate embracing the Cultural Mandate but I believe the key to everything is balance. Gotta have one part wisdom, and one part risk-taking. Indeed, if we are made in the image and likeness of God, and if it is God who issued the mandate to take dominion, I trust God to provide wisdom as we go along in this journey:)
Next, I must commend your comprehensive article on conversion therapy. Yet your questions seem to cast doubt over the bible’s stance on homosexuality. It does say in Romans 1:26-27 where Paul commented that God gave them up to vile passions, and in an NLT translation, “Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.” Guess it makes it quite clear doesn’t it? In addition, in Genesis, wasn’t that marked Sodom out in Genesis 19, where in verse 4, the men, upon hearing that angels were visiting Lot, wanted to rape them?
Even as society has made it seem as though it is pre-determined, yet the scientific paper that triggered media reports that claimed that homosexuality is genetic does not conclude it to be so. The reason for the uproar was that news media and the scientific world have different vocabulary. Even the followup scientific studies have come to similar conclusions. Google and read them:) Makes for an interesting read.
In addition, it is one thing to have homosexual tendencies, and another to act them out. Therein lies the greatest difference. It is one thing to think about committing murder/strangling a particularly frustrating person, and another to actually do it. One thing to fantasize about committing adultery and another to go ahead to have an affair.
Still, I believe that love covers. It is possible to love the homosexual and not homosexuality because ultimately, we all have a choice. We do not seek to change, how could we? And we must not judge, who are we to? Yet the Holy Spirit has the power to change even the hardest of hearts. Our job is to love people with the love of God that’s been freely given to us.
Gotta thank ya for making me think:)
Cheerios!
Hi Pastor, another wonderful article. Sad to say that I didn’t manage to catch the MM Lee’s message on TV but it is great to read what you wrote here. =D Thanks Pastor!
Hey Pastor, race and religion has always been a very sensitive subject in Singapore and you have pose the correct view and stand that we as Christians should have.
Hi Terence
For those who are trying to change, but have yet to change, they just need some time. Let the Holy Spirit help them. There’s nothing that we can do but to pray for them. =)
God is forever faithful even though we are not.
It’s the same as for smokers who are trying to quit smoking. Sometimes, they might be tempted or even take a puff after quitting, but as long as there’s *100% repentance*. God will still forgive.
Hi TKH, we need to chill and understand where others’ comments are coming from. Cannot be too quick to assume. =D
Take care! ^_^
Hi Pastor! What a great and detailed article that you’ve shared. Thanks for posting this article and making a stand.
At the end of the day, we need to be tolerant and be accepting to one another despite our differences. =)
Pastor, I always love what you write, your blogs, your insight, your devotions, etc. It is inspiring & mind-opening! I love God, I love you, I love the church, I love Singapore :) Let’s keep the harmony in this country!
Dear Pastor,
As I read the excerpts of PM speech in your blog, I am mindful of the burden that is on our PM’s heart, the need to rally for unity and harmony in our small island nation.
As you have taught us in church, to have unity and harmony within the church, the ministries and cell groups, as a house that is divided cannot stand; so much more is this needed for our nation, to have unity and harmony among its people, if we are to continue to live in peace and prosperity.
Luke 11:17
“Any kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and a house divided against itself will fall.
I thank God for you Pastor, for as the leader of CHC you have taught us well, not only to embrace the church, but our government and communities in totality.
Thumbs up for your blog!
To Terence,
I’m glad that you are that honest to let others know about your agenda. At least I know you are doing your job in posting all these comments …
We live in a world today where values have changed, what is unethical in the past may be allowed today … Therefore concerning your self-promotion in other’s blog to gain traffic for your own blog, I will leave the conclusion to the readers …
Anyway, I appreciate your efforts to clarify my misunderstandings on your comments. It is the tone of your comments that had led me to my conclusions … I have no intention to “hurl stones” at your character, knowing that God is the ultimate judge of every men’s work and motives …
As for your request to interview those that I know who have changed, I personally will not want my friends to be interviewed by a stranger on sensitive issues like these … I felt it will cross my bounderies of friendships with these dear ones … hope you understand that …
As for my encounter, too long to describe here, but from an anti-Christian to become a believer takes a miracle from God in my life …
I will keep you in prayers, hope that you can stay strong for the Lord …
To AAL … no prob, your comments are more than welcome …
To guitarwu, I’m cool about the whole thing, still smiling as I type these words …
My desire is for all to be edified in Christ …
God bless.
TKH
this is so enlightening…thanks Pastor and keep up the good work…i do and sure love praying for you and your family……
Terrence:
Let there be harmony, peace and joy.
Shake hands, reconcile and love.
What a moment of unification.
So much of differentiation, yet we choose to come together.
Love covers all. Love unites all.
In our quest for answers, let’s not forget that love is a Person we are searching for. :)
Dear Pastor,
What a great article & comment on government with religious. What a great if every nation’s government & citizen can have such mindset……………….
Let there be harmony, peace, tolerance among each other!
Thank you for the blog Pastor.
Really cleared up my mind after reading through your entry. Was really trying to form my own conclusion from what I have learnt in church and the speech by PM.
Pastor, you are truly amazing!
Really appreciate your blog/comment on this topic, Pastor. After the NDR message, I was “bombarded” by many of my colleagues regarding Christianity & its “perceived” agressiveness when it comes to evangelism. Many felt that this message was primarily a “warning” to Christian in Singapore against preaching of the gospel as well as to tone down in our evangelistic way of life (especially for the “mega church”).
However, your blog helps to dispel many of these perceptions (among my colleague) and it helps them to understand our stance and our way of life better. Especially on the issue of “filial piety”, your comments help to dispel their perception that Christian are a unfilial lot.
I truly believe that it is our lifestyle/character/behaviour that will reveal the reality of Christ to our friends/family/colleague – more than just words alone.
Thank you once again for being such a great pastor!
Dear Pastor,
What an AWESOME write up!!! Felt super blessed by it!! I totally agree that Harmony within the body of Christ is crucial. I strongly feel that Christians from ALL DENOMINATIONS in S’pore should be more united with one another rather than actively giving negative feedbacks on other churches besides his/her own church…. :) We serve the same God right? Hence, it’s only appropriate that we as believers help and love each other more each day…. :)
Jesus did not come to steal, kill or destory, rather He came to redeem and to restore, to love and to care. Let us not be like the devil himself who is out to sow discord. :) PEACE Is a Choice… :)
Dear Pastor, that was an excellent view and also review of the NDR speech by PM Lee.
The comments are well weighted and brings a sense of great responsibility on our part as believers to have sensitivity and balance without loosing our faith. Instead we are to walk in another level of responsibility.
Thank you for sharing your heart and mind with us.
I’m in the best church in the world even if others don’t see why is that so. Because I’m in it, I know this church is a place full of wisdom and revelations and that is so important to me. Thank you Pastor for being such a wise pastor to all of us and always being in the lead not just in fashion and spiritual discipline, but also in knowledge.
hellow Pastor : YOU ARE THE BEST PASTOR I EVER SEEN!
Amazing, illustration from the eye of a Pastor.
Amazing insight
Dear Pastor
I am so delighted to read your blog, which addresses the key issues on religious harmony. Though there may be some sensitive issues involved, I trust that the government and other religious beliefs will look to us that we are in line, not contradicting our government to promote religious harmony. Yes, CHC’s cultural mandate and our belief system of loving God wholeheartedly and loving people fervently will win our nation for Christ
Just on a personal view and stand on yoga, gigong or taiji as exercises. I read that you agree to such exercises. For me, I would not encourage my children to do exercise that have occultic links or dealing with the evil spirits. My personal belief is that the devil is very subtle, when going into the advance stage, would lead into meditating to these spirits.; so why do we allow the devil to have a foothold in our lives.
My brother-in-law, who is a double black dan in tae kwan do will testify to what he had gone through and his answer to such exercise is a straight no
For a weak Christian, once he or she has gone deep into meditating, it would be very difficulty to get out of it
I am not theologically trained or understand more to this when you compare them to celebrating Christmas.
However, as I am personal convinced that the above are occultic practices, I hope that, as my Pastor, you will respect my views
Your loving CHC member
Hi 康喜牧师你好,
您的部落歌,真的很棒,与社会同一个channel.
我的国家的国庆演说,讲来讲去50年不变.
都说一个冬姑如何大喊”米跌价”
我都没兴趣听.
可是PM Lee 这次”感感”来讲种族和蔼, 康喜牧师也号召各为”一心爱神” “一意爱人” 我也在此爱的口水流一流
我觉的大家谈的,”N” 年前孔子先生所说一样.
孔子的中心思想是仁 仁的表現是
己欲立而立人 己欲達而達人 己所不欲 他勿施於人
如以人為本體 表現在具體的行為上
Come on everybody一起來
對父母為孝 對兄弟為悌 對朋友為信 對國家為忠 對人則有愛心
P/S 如你觉的闷,不妨听一听亮哥唱的歌.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17IbJIJRWxM)
小时后-我跟马来族庆新年,踢足球
大学时-我门的happy hours 是在mamak store but not pub.
一杯恐龙milo,一片roti bomb, 与印度Singh friend 喊 一场 world cup
我在此中文留言,是因为我希望各族same channel.
Keharmonian segala bangsa adalah untuk semua.
Kepentingan semua tetap dihargai dalam hati kita
I think most of the comment are written in English, can i suggest others comment in other language as well, to promote what PM Lee says “diference races, but live together”
你是华人的话,你可以向PM Lee 学习.
我华文很烂,可是我还”感感”来表达我心中的那一句话. 谢谢
Wong Cien Theng, Andrew
I can’t agree with you more. Why should we want to associate ourselves with things that have links to the devil thereby opening a door for him to work?
Years ago when I was a new believer, my colleague and I took up yoga classes at a fitness club. It was purely physical exercise and nothing religious. But we engaged in breathing and relaxation techniques whereby were were taught to completely ‘blank’ our minds for 10-15mins each time. We forgot about this until years later when my colleague complained to me that she has no control over the thoughts that kept assailing her mind. Day and night she was bombarded by all kinds of mental images, and it was wearing her down.
As for myself, I suffered from constant mental blockages and I knew it had to do with the yoga lessons I took back then. I began to seek God for deliverance and repented from all occultic involvements. Thank God that He has set me free from that oppression.
My advice to everyone – don’t be fooled. Never have anything to do with things that are linked to the occult, no matter how remotely. There are so many other forms of exercises to choose from, why take the chance?
To my Dearest Pastor Kong Of CHC all i can say is YOU ARE Amazing,,YOU are a great Pastor,God really give you the powerful words that can give bomb of light to each readers or to everyone of us, Its really a BIG WOW Pastor Kong,
And though i am here in philippines i can apply the same treat to the people that surrounded me specially to the subjects (gay and lesbian) Its really a big Help for me, coz i am quiet sad of how people treated them.
I am so proud oF YOU Pastor, though i am here in the philippines for good but i will remain a member of city harvest I pray that one day God will bring city harvest here in Davao Philippines…
Pastor Kong May the Lord give YOU more Power and The Anointing of His Grace be Always Upon You…
Lastly even though i watch service in the internet but i still miss live CHC services,and miss my cellgroup too.
Lovingly Your’s
Evangeline CHC member.
Hi, i’m not from CHC. but i really wan to affirm this word. Indeed it is heartwarming to read abt such text that speaks of “one-ness” and a common goal in this nation. The promoting of one’s believe system to sync with the nation’s agenda is definitely a welcoming sign. Knowing that such is not from 2 different worlds, but an enaging one.
Indeed, God’s love is irregardless of race, language or religion. As much as He cares for the stars and birds of the air, He cares for us (you).
Sometimes, ppl (including religious leaders) may be too prefixed with each other’s differences and start debating. Well, I believe it is the unconditional actions that will cause people to have a personal encounter rather than the concepts and precepts.
I applaud Pst Kong and I believe God is glorified. As we get educated thru his texts, i believe we shd response thru our daily acts to the people and the world around us. Faith is an essential energy (n the reason to work), YES, but love is the key to the lighthouse. (not for ppl to see, but as u do so, ppl will see)
(1Cor13:1)
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
[As to the Thessalonians (1 Thess 1:3) "remembering without ceasing your work of faith, labor of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the sight of our God and Father"]
A great blog but I wished Ps Kong touched on inter-marriage. I’ve so many non-Christian friends who have a negative impression of Christianity because their Christian partners have so often called off relationships because of religious differences.
Is your church is Biblical? if so, where is it in the Bible that CHC is in it? and how do you know that your organization is accepted by God almighty.
Please Reply, Thanks.
Hi, I have read your blog occasionally and is impressed at how you have run this religious organization. But there are 2 things that I’m concerned about here that MAY not have been mentioned. (There is no need for Pastor to reply of course, take mine’s as a reference and a comment to the blog entry).
1. Yes, I strongly agree with PM Lee that this country is a multi-racial/religious nation. Therefore, we NEED to tolerate and respect every religion apart from ours. Even if one is an Atheist, they need to maintain a certain level of tolerance towards religions and their believers. There is no denying of that in this society (as an ideal rule for the achievement of the above-stated paragraphs). What PM Lee (and many) had said also means that -
We have to respect each and everyone’s religions. Every religions has it’s plus points, be it Christians, Muslim, Buddhist or other religions. The underlying message to it is that if one is a believer of Religion A, Religion B should not attempt to convert Religion A’s believer into baptizing into Religion B. It is alright if Religion B preaches once to the believer of Religion A. However, after the first encounter. One should have known which faith do the believer of Religion A believes in and therefore RESPECT it and stops the preaching. However, anything more than that creates unnecessary nuisance to the former. In Layman’s term, If you know that A is a believer in Religion A, B should not, in any attempt, convert A.
Like I’ve mentioned earlier, all religions definitely have their own unique traits and different beliefs in god(s), goddesses, prophets and/or the messenger/savior etc… And all religions will embrace and strongly believe in their own faiths.
For instance, as a Christian, one will strongly believe in Jesus and the God (Depends on which denomination you belongs to). Therefore, a Christian will strongly believe and even experience the presence of the holy spirit/Jesus etc due to a strong conviction to Christian God. Ditto that, for a Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish, etc…
If one is to attempt to convert the other to their religion, even though they are fully aware of the beliefs the latter is in now, it is considered an “indirect nuisance” (a term that I called :) ). It is good for one to be a devout believer. But it is otherwise if one tries to convert the other (of different faith).
Unfortunately, til today, there are still people doing that. One example will be Christian (I know it’s sensitive here but this is one real-life example). Of course not ALL Christians do that, but there are MANY devout believers who tries to spread the message of god and in the hope of converting someone who is not of a christian faith in order to ’save their soul/wash away the sins/guarantee a spot with Jesus in Heaven’. This action is already going against what should be a multi-religious and tolerant society.
2. What is the actual view of a Christian? I have been to many different Churches for quite some time even though I am not a Christian as I am interested in Religions/Philosophy. One thing that is pretty disturbing is the repetitive speech that I have heard (both direct and indirect, with underlying message) that ‘One’s soul will only be redeemed and go to heaven if they embraced and believe in Jesus (in order words Baptized as a Christian)’. Of course, such common message found in churches are not openly shared with the public. However, imagine someone (who is a devout christian) who preaches on someone of different religion, brings him/her to a service and hears such a message frequently, what does that imply to him/her? He/She may have joined Christianity, but ultimately, what message is being embedded in her?
These are 2 of my concerns that I have always wanted to voice out and since I saw your blog (Pastor Kong) blogging on PM Lee’s speech on religions/races, I guess it is pretty appropriate and see what you guys (Christians, or Non-christians are welcomed) have to say :)
P.S. My best friend is a Christian too, but I am not afraid of voicing out what I felt is out of place, even to my best friend, as long as we maintain a high level of respect to each other’s religion. WIth that said, I hope that you guys give feedbacks. (I don’t mind people flaming/ praising my comments, what I am more interested though, is a thorough explanation to my 2 concerns :) )
Thanks,
I.N.
■ TO I.N.
hi I.N., thanks for sharing. I’m not a member of CHC, but a christian though, and i hope to share a few things =)
1) As christians, we believe in the word of God (bible) and what it says. Bible says that we are sinners and the wages for sin is death (Romans6:23) and only thru believing in God and that Christ died for our sins, that we will gain eternal life. This is the unconditional love that we receive and so, becos of Christ’s love, we want to spread to the world. The question is how is this love spread that i believe you have seen its negativity. Let me explain in (2)
2) see, the bible (Luke10 principle) says (in simple term) “First Bless then, second mingle and fellowship with them (be part of them). Third, meet their needs (like the unconditional love). Lastly, preach the gospel.”
But many a times, ppl receive the negative feelings on the preach the gospel becos there are christians who skip the first few parts.. YES, we believe in preaching the gospel, but more importantly, we want to bless, fellowship, and love. We want to be like Jesus. He died on the cross not base on a condition “only if u believe in me den i die”. but He gave His life unconditionally, becos He loved us. That’s it.
3) Phrasing: Is not “you should do this this this, b4 we/God can love u” BUT is “becos we/God had love u in such a way, that we hope u can be part of us”. This is then preaching the gospel. Our lives become the gospel.
I became a Christian becos my life was touched and becos of what Christ and christians had done to me and changed my life, I decided to be part of them. This is a personal decision and commitment. We are spreading the gospel thru our actions, life and community, but not hard-selling.
I hope u understand the concept where we hope to bless, fellowship, and meet needs rather den selling christianity. What we want is a personal salvation where ppl like me, is truly touch and moved by the works of God and the people of God den decide to follow God. If u want, u can read the bible passage from luke 10:5-37 (www.biblegateway.com)
I really wish that u will see us not as irritating sales promoters. Pls forgive us if there are ppl who spread this negativity and cos u to feel awkward. As christians, we aim to model like Christ. To love without strings attached and excel in what we do so that we can give praise and glory to our God.
Sincerely, God bless u..
well said pastor! =D
Why there’s no answer to my question? even your pastor…I just want to know..or there is nobody knows what is the answer to my question…
Hi Francis,
I do believe that as long as a church’s fundamendal belief is aligned with the word of God. That church is biblical!
http://www.chc.org.sg/eng/church/church_sttFaith.php
Well, believing through faith, Jesus took our rejection and gave us acceptance. We can now come boldly to approach the throne of grace (Heb 4:16). That’s acceptance!
Hi Francis,
Answering your last question…
“….and how do you know that your organization is accepted by God almighty?”
The answer would be something like the answer to this question:
“How do you know that you are going to heaven?”
Thank you Ham, I just wonder, why there is a lot of sect and denomination in christianity, it is hard to recognize which is true and telling the truth, all of the church’s fundamendal belief is aligned with the word of God..is this means all of these church’s are true and acceptable by God? what is your basis to recognize the one true church? because i know that there is only one church but how can we know that? please elaborate it Biblically.
Thank you!
Dear Francis,
We don’t think we are the one true church, if we’re talking about a perfect church we are far from it. I feel that regarding the basis of knowing that whether the church is of God. Well that’ll take a million words but i’ll just share what i know in just these few points. Iam not a blogger so i don’t usually share anything on anyone’s blog : )
1) Whether they are fulfilling their individual purposes as a church to be a salt and a light in the world/society that God has placed them in
2) A church that believes in the liberty in Christ Jesus and of course! with the ten commandments etched in our heart as a guidelines. (Please read the post PK posted titled “The Ten Commandments” ) Its a rather big topic to cover so pardon me, please DIY ahah!
3) And being a church that love one another regardless of race or religion,
Love one another, that the world will see and know that you are my disciples
-Jesus
Yup : )
Jov
Pastor Kong, you have shared some good thoughts, but I wonder how you will respond to this issue for more clarity: http://www.yawningbread.org/guest_2009/guw-164.htm
Thanks!
Dear Rev. Kong Hee,
Thank God for life Rev Kong Hee. I have watch and listen to your sermon through TVNZ on Friday 18th Sept 2009. and I’m so blessed. You’ve taught about 4 areas where christian to aware of.
1. Don’t look back on old since – already forgiven
2. Don’t look back on old defeats- will pull you down
3. Don’t look back on old conflicts- make you bitter ( STOP rehearse your past)
4.Don’t look back on old victories- think that you;ve already arrived- Your best is yet to come.
I am Hosea Tally, from Vanuatu. My lovely wife is Claire Tally and we have 3 kids and we are christians.
Thanks
About the yoga class, I think it’s really up to the individual. If he/she is mentally prepared, i think it should be ok to attend the exercise class. I have a friend who spoke in tongues quietly during the yoga class. Maybe you can do that too. lol.
Hey Francis, about your question about entering the kingdom of God, you can also watch our online service on what Pst Tan Ye Peng shared on Sept 6. That’ll give you better understanding. =)
http://attributes.com.sg/city-harvest-weekend-services
Basis of one true church?
Personally I think as long as the church follows the life of Jesus, like the 10 commandments, repentance, etc. That should be fine.
Hope that helps. =)
To Curious, we welcome many different people from all woks of life in the house of God. All we can do is to pray for them and love them like how Jesus loves them. =)
I have very deep respect for Pastor Kong and have been touched by his love and teachings for which I had recently come to know more. Thanks for this love message from God. You are a great leader I emulate. There is one point I could not agree and for guitarwu’s benefit have written below from an objective viewpoint.
Dear everyone
Some young professionals go to yoga classes because yoga is a good form of exercise, brings relaxation from work & perhaps health benefits to the individual. I flipped open women magazines and such youthful vitality fitted into part of a cool and hip lifestyle.
So you may think you do not care where it originates from as long as it is good for health and many celebs practise it. Churches appear pretty open-minded about such things (they do not wish to be blamed for being overly restrictive). ‘Another megachurch’ pastor had mentioned it does not bother him either whether you practise yoga, yogi etc.
The purpose of free will is good for individuals, but for everything that is permissible, not everything is beneficial.
From the people who had been through it. A senior pastor shared in his teens he practised different forms of martial arts (he is a black belt holder). They were taught to go into deep meditation at a certain stage and told to ‘blank out’ their minds. He drove home the point.
>> The moment you “empty” your mind, you open your mind to the devil.
For the devil is very subtle. Do you really know what you are doing? Go wiki yoga and read the rest of it. This is the church’s stand. It didn’t give a lot of explanations we can or cannot do it, but it is very clear. That is good enough for me; good advice saves me a lot of trouble down the road. >> Just don’t do it! Enough temptations in life. Aren’t we supposed to plug the holes and gaps in our lives?
>> Resist the devil and he will flee from you. (John 1:5 says And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. Light exposes darkness.)
I applaud the two persons who shared earlier as adults genuinely form a protective love over their children. I have never tried yoga so I cannot tell per say but I once nearly tried metaphysics in my youth when I read a book. In my ignorance I thought I could ‘derive benefits’ by doing something. Strong was the influence. The holy spirit most likely prompted me away before I started. I still belong to God.
For many people, we like to experiment with different things even though we know it is wrong; it doesn’t hurt and you’re young just once. This is the harder part. Take heart, this darkness does not overcome Jesus. “The light shines in the darkness — Jesus shines, the gospel shines, the church shines — and the darkness will not overcome it.” (Sound of grace.com)
For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light. (Psalm 36:9).
ALRIGHT! pastor, you’ve shared something great once again! :)
thank you so much for your valuable insights into these topics! :)
Hey pastor, I heard that Muslim is also part of Christian, as they worship one of prophet/messenger sent by God. Is it true?
YOUR SUN’s China wine is a good example for Racial harmony. When it come to sex there is equality. You are practicing what you preach
Cheers Pastor.
RDAP
Hi Pastor
When you use “Tolerance,” “accommodation,” “mutual respect” and “being accepting”, does it also mean its Ok to participate in religious ceremonies with the other religions? What do you think? If a monk or Iman say, tells you to pray with him to his god, can we do this in toleration and acceptance? Also do you think the other Christian religions are also doing this acceptance and tolerance things
Dear pastor,
even when i am typing this comment, I feel warm tears filling my eyes. Your words of wisdom was what touches me the most and teaches me a lot. Be it having faith, strength and etc. When I was attending church I am happy, positive and strong.
However, I am indeed sorry to say,dear pastor,because I am attached to a person of an islamic religion I have chosen to backslide to protect the relationship. I remembered someone once told me, to sacrifice my wants and god will give me more and be my comfort. Yet, I am not strong enough to leave my partner of a few years. I have believed the lord and only attended church for a year but I really believed in god. I still have little knowledge about christianity and I feel really lousy for being a backslider. I know to be sorry isn’t enough but right now, I feel there is little I can do.
I just want to tell you that pastor, you have been a great man and I look up to you. I wish you, and your family the best in everything.
Thank you so much.